Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! Episode 6 Discussion

i have a lot of pleasure and fun with this show ^_^

Gimmmmeee mooooreee /o/

Dammit, KyoAni. Stop being so good with comedy.

^^^What scene? I read Onani but i'm drawing a blank here.

I couldn't stop laughing.
Kumin touching the shaved head, she's perfect.

Japanese are hyper sensitive. They don't like anything negative. And most important of all they don't like feeling "uncomfortable" and don't like people who make them feel uncomfortable. It's why they bend over backwards to be nice and apologize all the time.

The other thing about Japan is reputation means a lot. If do something foolish sometimes it sticks with you permanently. Japanese aren't as forgiving as most are in western cultures.

Now, tell me, In that type of society, would a ranking system that rates a bunch of emotionally insecure girls based on their looks become a big deal? Especially if the rankings went public.

Sure you could argue that the whole interrogation scene was a bit excessive. But still doesn't change the fact that Isshiki F`ed up by having that little book get out in publie.

As for "nothing happened afterwards". Again Japanese avoid confrontation and negativity. That retaliation is more subtle than that. Most likely none of the girls will even acknowledge Isshiki again. It was actually rather strange that Nibutani was chatting with him. But i guess her being class rep would allow her the ability to do that without repercussions.

^ do u watch Mr. Bean for the plot? XD

having said that i still believe this show has a deeper story in the future, regarding rikka's family. But so far the show bring refreshment and laugh, that is enough to enjoy.

If anyone has noticed, Kumin went away when Isshiki talked to Nibutani and Yuuta about the love letter. Kumin looked like a background character that time, but she is that girl! So that is what making me think Kumin is the one who sent the love letter.

for some reason I am now attracted to Makoto Isshiki bold head :')

Really enjoyed this Episode 5/5. Poor Isshiki XD

Kumin is so Adorable!

After absolutely amazing episodes for Sakuraso and Tonari, Chuuni wasn't quite able to reach their level.

I wasn't too sold on an episode so concentrated on a side character. There was just a lot less of what made the last few episodes so great to watch: Rikka's eccentricity and Mori-sama's awesome character changes.

The jokes were just not as funny and the interactions between Yuta and Ishhiki were very forced.
I only part with Ishhiki I liked was when he was greeted by all his male classmates at the cherry tree!

Hopefully, we return to more Rikka. Despite all the attention on Ishhiki, Rikka holding Yuta's hand was the highlight of the episode.

Very well said. I think this is just one example of how western sensitivity differs a lot from Japanese one, which may result in western fans dismissing the whole thing as exaggerated, ridiculous or laughable. Of course in this anime, the whole thing is dealt with in a comedic way but in real life social ostracism is quite likely for Isshiki. Japanese are indeed more sensitive about the inter-personal relationship thing and can be really unforgiving too, particularly if they think not enough repentance is shown.

Heh, he sure does :P

I really hate Rikka's servant. She's getting on my nerves. By the way, Rikka's sister is so cool. She's my second favorite after Nibutani ^^ or maybe, she was first and then nibutani. Lol.. i don't care who's first. :D

Rikka is the best thing in this show.

That was lame but it still got a few snickers from me. XD They promised not to laughed but I had laughed at the look of their faces while they while laughing at him.

So I was wondering if there really was a girl who wrote the letter?

I agree. She needs more screentime. Less emphasis on side characters please KyoAni. Unless you can make them interesting.


I agree with you too. I'm not sure why though. Rikka comes off as being adorable and awesome, while Dekomori comes off as being annoying and irritating, even though if I step back for a second, they are very similar characters. Ahhh, the hypocrisy!

Funny and cute ep, as always.

And so this week's episode ends in a cliffhanger.

JAKARTA or CUUNIBYOU ?!

I think we all know which one he's gonna pick...Jakarta, motherfackas.

Id only she was in a more decent show.

I have a similar conundrum with Yuru Yuri. I adore Sakurako, but I find Kyouko annoying. They're both pretty obnoxious, self-centered and lazy, so what is it about Sakurako that appeals to me more? (besides dat fang).

My ass is starting to bald at 20 and this guy is whining about 35!? it could be way worse my boy.

Pretty enjoyable episode, nice to see an episode based on Togashi's friend.

It's always nice to see Nibutani get tackled by Sanae because she is such a bitch.

So is Isshiki a crip now?

omg Kumin WHAT ARE YOU DOING

Ep 7 PV

I like the puppy.


Rikka and Dekomori aren't actually that similar. Dekomori is defined mostly by her relationship with Nibutani, and those are the worst moments in the entire show. Their fights are boring and don't add any depth to their characters. It might have been funny the first time Dekomori ambushed Nibutani, but it was cliche to begin with and the lack of variation has made the humor incredibly underwhelming. Actually, I found it much more annoying than funny the first time Nibutani "was defeated by the words of the true Mori Summer." And their relationship just makes them both seem bitchy, Dekomori more so. Which makes them less likeable. Their laughing at Isshiki didn't help either.

What I think they should do is replace all of the Nibutani and Dekomori nonsense with Kumin napping.
That would make me happy.

Obligatory beach episode, It was bound to happen sooner or later.
Episode 7 and still no plot, right?

Slice-of-life comedy usually does not have "plot" as you understand it. The plot is the various situation they find themselves in, with perhaps a bit of evolution of the relationship between characters. There may be a bigger event near the end so that there will be a mini-climax at the end, but there is usually no overarching "plot" as you may often expect in a TV drama.

I see, so this show is about having fun while watching it without expecting much out of it.

Yes, just enjoy the ride. Look at how the characters interact with each other, and have fun. Character relationship does evolve (like Isshiki getting to know people like Nibutani or Kumin better in this episode) but that's about it in terms of any "plot progress".

You actually haven't encountered slice-of-life before? Go watch Hanasaku Iroha.

Hmm.. I would say Hanasaku Iroha has quite significant drama/melodrama element compared to purer slice-of-life like Hidamari or A-Channel. But then perhaps it is a good way to get a feel of what slice-of-life is like before jumping to the deep end.

I find that the best titles within a genre tend to not be purely confined to the genre itself.
Although I would recommend A-Channel as well, just not as much. To be honest though, A-Channel isn't "pure slice-of-life" either, whatever that even means. Whatever amount of drama HanaIro has, A-Channel compensates with an equivalent amount of comedy.

Nah, I have watched Haruhi before, and I hated it, well, that might be too harsh said, but, yeah, I didn't like it, too much randomness and I generally prefer more coherent fan service-less shows with plot I find interesting and intriguing, that's why my list is so empty. Dont get me wrong, I've seen much more shows than that, but I ultimately decided to only leave those on my list which were rated above 8.

For example, Steins;Gate was utter garbage before episode 12.
And, to be honest, I continued watching this show only because of Rikka.

On the other hand, my most favorite titles of slice-of-life genre all belong to the purer type. In fact, if I have to describe Hanasaku Iroha's primary genre, I think I'd lean more towards drama than slice-of-life, but I guess it is entirely subject to personal preference.
A-Channel's drama is the kind of little drama common in pure slice-of-life, whereas those in Hanasaku Iroha has drama that extends to several episodes and sometimes can turn quite melodramatic, which is why I call A-Channel to be a purer slice-of-life work than Hanasaku Iroha.

OK I got just got wind of the preview. Here is my take on it.

Already I love the skin and body composure of the 2 girls in following,

Sanae looks especially delicious with more skin/body revealed of her. Very nice. While Rikka, well adorable in her own way but I am more a Sanae fan.

Rest of my thoughts in the club:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=517487
Due to new rules of screenshots.

Fan service in Haruhi is already quite mild if you ask me. And Haruhi's appeal is not just the characters (but the characters count a lot for its appeal so if you don't like the characters at all then most likely the show is not for you). To me, Haruhi belongs to an entirely sui generis position among other slice-of-life work because it presents a highly abnormal group of characters with grandly epic proportion implication into the humdrum of a daily highschool slice-of-life. A rare manifestation of "sekai-kei" genre merging with "slice-of-life" genre, leading to a close and dense mix of insightful drama with crazy humor, that appeals to me most. Anime in Japan can be hard to understand for people coming with a western drama tradition because often a coherent overarching plot is far from the priority - often they treasure the little bits and short stories that highlight the various bits and finer details of the same thing, which may develop only slowly and apparently randomly.

Anyway, it just happened that I read a survey in a Japan anime forum which anime got the users to become a keen anime fan and the no.1 turned out to be Haurhi, beating popular choices like Evangelion or Gundam. Interesting result.

Anyway, to be more on-topic, I would say Chuunibyou is more a slice-of-life comedy but I heard it may turn into a romcom in the second half of the series. Let's see how it goes.

Fixed.
In all serioiusness though, the first half of Steins;Gate just wasn't as good as it should have been.
The second half is what makes it such a great anime and all that.
So you shouldn't really use it to measure your preference of plot vs slice-of-life.


I agree that HanaIro is more melodramatic, but A-Channel has comedic exaggeration to compensate. All four characters in A-Channel are exaggerated within their stereotypes, with the most obvious being Run. Nobody actually acts like that in real life. This makes A-Channel a hybrid slice-of-life/comedy in contrast to HanaIro's slice-of-life/drama and not really a "pure" slice-of-life anime.

Yeah, I only started watching anime like, 6 Months ago. and I find most of the shows simply unbearably shallow.

I just re-watched Last 2 Evangelion episodes, and I think that they were a truly genial.

Slice-of-life can be exaggerated and not like real life. And it is not limited to slice-of-life. Many characters in anime would not act like real life people. Those characters in Chuunibyou are almost all very much exaggerated and carry with them a load of stereotypes too. To me slice-of-life is equivalent to what Japanese say Nichijou-kei 日常系 (translated "slice-of-life genre") and is almost always used to describe slice-of-life comedy - this is what I refer to as "pure slice-of-life". So for me if there is melodrama in it, then it is usually not called "slice-of-life" for the show, even though inside it has slice-of-life elements. For Hanasaku Iroha, the primary genre would be 生活ドラマ (translated "life drama") although it has quite a number of scenes with slice-of-life comedy components.

For Chuunibyou, the genre given in Japan hovers between Slice-of-Life and Love Comedy. We shall see how much it leans to Love Comedy (romcom) as the series progresses.

It depends on how you look at a work. Anime presents its challenge because the way it builds story or presents its theme can be very different from a western real-life drama - the media are different, the culture is different. What I'd say is that to appreciate a work it is better to keep an open mind and appreciate what is done well instead of sticking to a standard to judge a work.

That's a fairly narrow interpretation of the term "slice-of-life" though. I agree that most slice-of-life anime tend towards comedy, but I don't think that comedy is part of the definition of slice-of-life. Maybe it's a language issue, since in English, slice-of-life can be used to describe art other than anime.

Either way, as a genre label, it's more of a description of setting than anything else. If you follow some characters through a mundane setting of everyday school/work, then that's slice-of-life. Whether the rest of the anime tends towards comedy or drama is somewhat irrelevant, as long as there is not too much development in terms of plot.

Language definitely presents a problem, but if I write Nichijou-kei, would people understand? I prefer to use an English word if possible. My choice is to keep a narrow interpretation of the word slice-of-life (which is how the Japanese word Nichijou-kei would be translated to in English anyway) and matches it with the meaning of the Japanese word Nichijou-kei.

If they've seen Nichijou, they would have some idea at least, haha.
More important, I actually find it more useful to associate slice-of-life with more drama-ish shows.
Ore no Imouto comes to mind as one example.

For comedy/slice-of-life... you can just call it comedy. After all, slice-of-life comedy and comedy as a broader genre are almost equivalent within anime (not quite, but close), while drama in a slice-of-life setting is distinct from drama in other settings. Just calling HanaIro "drama" doesn't say much about it, whereas calling HanaIro "slice-of-life" and A-Channel "comedy" gives you a much better understanding of what the shows are about. That is, assuming you don't immediately read "slice-of-life" as "slice-of-life comedy."

Oh, I did Appreciate Death Note and Fate Zero S1 and S2.
The best animated shows I've ever seen.
Not to insult anyone, but this show doesn't come anywhere near the quality of those 2 shows.
Death Note was what got me into Anime.

Personally, I've never much cared for the label "slice of life", since it means so many different things to so many different people and is usually to broadly applied.

How would you describe shows that are referred to as "slice-of-life" then?

I don't - not my job (grin)

Seriously, it all depends upon the show and what I got out of it.

You are the drama type so this kind of slice-of-life show may be an acquired taste to you.

Anyway, in terms of technical achievement like sakuga (still art and motion/expression animation) or sound/music Chuunibyou is among the top class that can be made in the anime industry, which is what people have come to expect from Kyoto Animation (or KyoAni in short), the studio which animates this show. So perhaps you can look at this show from these angles, which I think is at least a good match for Fate/Zero and definitely beats Death Note.