Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! Episode 12 Discussion

I haven't heard much about the soundtrack from people, but Chuunibyou has one of the best I've heard in a while. It isn't particularly unique however it synergises with all scenes perfectly. Many of the tracks, especially most of the ones played in this episode, where absolutely beautiful.

For a film, tv show, anime, etc to set itself above the rest, I believe...no... I know that the music that supports the visuals must be perfect. It is what makes films from Disney and video games like FFVII into masterpieces.

It's difficult for me to not give a 10 or at least a 9 for this series :).

banishment... this WORLLDDDDDDDDD!!!!!

yuuta.. i mean, dark flame master so freaking cool. great anime, great ending.

i hope next seasons anime are as good as this seasons.

Good way to wrap things up. And now everything comes to an end. It was cool to see Yuuta as Dark Flame master again. He's much better like that.

Overall I give this show a 7/10.

I freaking loved it and I thought the last episode was fantastic.
I really liked the last bit where she has flashbacks to the time with her father. Right in the feels.

Yeah I wanted a kiss too, but Rikka couldn't even look at Yuuta in the eye 2 episodes ago.
It would have been out of character.

My personal score is 8.5 not sure if I will give an 8 or 9 for it. (Most likely an 8 for now.)

One thing I didn't like was the letter he wrote to himself to have delivered 2 years later.
It was too much to take seriously.

Also, Dekomori hair and I thought the grandpa was amusing.

I had high hope for this anime, but looks like it ended kinda plain 8.5/10

My my, seeing all of this praise for the ending is making me feel isolated. I personally didn't like the ending.

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To me, this anime is all about the build-up the story, well, it felt like it to me. Every episode inched closer and closer to what Rikka's true purpose for her syndrome was and what-not. Episode after episode, I patiently waited to see how they could possibly have ended it. While I admit, the whole scene where Rikka and Yuuta look out to the lights beyond the sea was cute, I don't feel like it really amounted to anything. All she said was the thing she couldn't say before without Yuuta's help. However, what I want to know is, why couldn't she say this before? What I got from the ending is that Yuuta's influence on her just prevented her from realizing the difficult situation in front of her sooner. Also, what became of this? I don't like this whole "mysterious, happily-ever-after" ending. With this much build-up, I feel the anime pulled a bit of a cop-out at the last second. It makes me want to read the light novel to see if it's explained any better.

Hopefully my words don't offend anyone, as that is not my intention. I just feel the ending is a bit flawed, in a sense. I enjoyed the rest of the anime, and am saddened to see that Nibutani didn't have a bigger role in the plot. I would've liked to see more of her character development first-hand.

Seeing Kumin act as Rikka was hilarious.

Dekomori looked cute with her hair down.

Episode, especially the ending was really cute. Though I was hoping that Rikka would have gotten over her Chuuinbyou after coming to terms with her father's death when she finds what she was looking for, the "Unseen Horizon." Maybe showing Rikka and Yuuta when they're older with them being able to balance their imaginary life and reality.
I guess my expectations were too high because this isn't a philosophical series.

Episode rating 8/10

Overall rating 9/10 for the interesting concept, memorable characters, funny jokes, and enjoyability, Oh, and the moe hahahaha.

I'm still not used to KyoAni not doing kiss scenes though....

REALY GOOD ENDING!
I stated this with no expectations and rated this a 4/10 in the begening, It now is a 8/10, I think this anime has a good story to it and I want to read the manga now

Well, that wrapped up pretty nicely.

It's been a lot of laughs and fun. Didn't quite get the "epic" climax I seek, and not to mention, the Yuuta yelling at Rikka scene is still not shown >_< Which is a let down as I'm a big drama muncher.

7/10 for this entertaining, very well animated series.

Thank you KyoAni, for once again producing something worthwhile.

Looking forward to Tamako Market

Well damn, this was one hell of an anime. This franchise desperately needs a Chuunibyou ~After Story~.

10/10

KyoAni really did a marvelous job.

Thank you for bringing this anime in fall because so far, from my perspective, this anime is considered one of the best. i am really happy when chuunibyou aired
every week because its comedy will light up my mood, and of course i really loved the romance scene you put in there. it mixed with the comedy nicely. i am still confused why there are no kissing scene, but i think without it this anime really deserved a job well done.

once again, thank you

Wonderful ending :")
Gonna miss it so much, all the characters especially Rikka, yuuta and Kumin senpai
A predicatble ending, but I didn't expect that Yuuta is who caused Rikka's Chuunibyou and that hug is really well done and touching
Kumin senpai is not bad as the 2nd Tyrant's eye too
I really like the narration at the end. All human are suffering Chuunibyou as long as they live :)
The only complains I have are a bit forced drama at the middle of the series and why it's so short....
9.5/10
Banishment this world!

And again kyoto animation amaze me with their brilliant finale. 5/5
I like the part when yuuta read a letter from his past self, it was so touching
Sanae her hair down was soo HHHNNNGGGGG!!!

I enjoyed the ending. Personally, I have this series somewhere between 8 and 9 -- but the way Rikka said goodbye at the end to her father then went on to fight the police on the back of Yuuta's bike was just too priceless. The execution from KyoAni is just right at every point. What's not to like?

OK, first of all I don't buy the nonsense philosophy that the show tried to do at the end.

Secondly, I feel that a few scenes of this final episode were overly dramatic just for the sake of it.

With all of that being said.....this was still a VERY GOOD anime with wonderful characters that were very likable, relatable, and entertaining.

A SOLID 8/10 FOR ONE OF THE BEST ANIME OF 2012

Deux Ex Machina my friend....

for all that happened, i was really shocked by how cute dekomori is when her hair is straight XD

and the main girl in tamako market advertisement in the end really looks like chitanda from hyouka :)

BTW ddnt expect that kind of ending 9/10 for me

Cool anime, but I didn't really like the ending.

This was such an amazing and heartbreaking episode. I'm so sad it's over!
I didn't mind that they didn't kiss in fact it might have been a bit inappropriate given the circumstances in this episode, plus they're both shy and derpy characters right lol.
I cried so much when she said goodbye to her father and they showed all the flashbacks and what not, was well animated too. Voice acting was also good.
I found it incredibly cute and wonderful that Yuuta was the reason for her Chuunibyou Syndrome. Loved this anime 9/10 but if I could probably 8.5/10.
These last two episodes pushed the rating up for me to be honest.
Also, can't wait for Tamako Market, KyoAni AHEAD

Great series :) really wish it could continue im going to miss it D:

Yeah there defiantly should have been a kiss,but overall good anime and i enjoyed it. 8/10

This episode feels a bit rushed, but I'm satisfied with the closure. :)

No final ep kiss, i am dissapointed, good show overall.

Also the art of Tamako market looks way too much like Kokoro connect, they probably should've left that to Silver Link and done something with art that resembles Hyouka

To be honest I wasn't expecting much from chuunibyou's last episode or the show in general but that finale blew me away. Dekomori and Kumin's transformations gave me a shock loved it.

>Dekomori with her hair down being polite
HNNNNNNNNNG

Yuuta's BANISHMENTO DISU WORLDO was siiiiccckkk. Getting chased by the cops makes a great romantic ending. Everyone helping out was nice also especially Isseki hahaha.

9/10

That was a highly satisfying and immensely beautiful conclusion; certainly one of the best episodes of the entire show. However, it was also plagued with several lingering flaws that, though not even moderately detrimental, were unfortunately noticeable. Following the great, but decidedly dramatic eleventh episode, this conclusion superbly handled the dichotomous emotions that were present within the narrative, portraying Rikka’s tormented past surprisingly well and with a particular tranquility that really worked in establishing a wistful atmosphere, while also deftly suffusing the episode with an abundance of humorous antics that consistently lightened the emotionally reflective tone. This wonderfully climactic episode solidified the show as one of the best within this comprehensively strong season, thoroughly elevating itself beyond the mere mediocrity that commonly resides in romantic comedies.

My favorite sequence, by far, was the entirety of the last several minutes. Rikka’s jump into Yuuta’s outstretched arms was considerably effective, as it visually paralleled the moment she attempted and consequently failed to jump into his arms prior to finding that her cherished home had been destroyed, which compelled Rikka’s gradual deterioration into an emotionally fractured existence, but, as a terrific bit of foreshadowing, Yuuta, in this particular instance, succeeded in catching her, which was a subtle, but powerful, contrast, illuminating that their complex bond was no longer one of fragility and that, as displayed by the following scene, she was ready, through his assistance, to move on from her past torments. Of course, the emotional highlight of this sequence, and the entire show, for that matter, was the highly meaningful moment when Yuuta, for the first time, indulged his “Dark Flame Master” persona, so as to show Rikka the Ethereal Horizon that she had so longed to glimpse since her father’s death. The incredible visuals and the appropriately subdued, but sweetly romantic, musical selection, perfectly complemented the deeply felt significance of this climactic revelation, culminating with her final goodbye to the father she hadn’t been previously capable of letting go. Really, this was an intricately profound moment that was immensely satisfying and exceptionally well-directed. Their sunset bike-ride along the ocean was framed with a beautifully colorful aesthetic that effectively emphasized the significant altering of Rikka’s chuunibyou inclinations and the thoroughly meaningful development of their relationship, drawing upon the emotional turmoil that had plagued them for the last few episodes. I also loved the closing, surprisingly insightful and succinct narration, as it comprehensively articulated the meaning behind their romantic journey, while illuminating the oft-hidden depth of the syndrome that had afflicted each of them at some point in their lives.

One of the most emotionally effective moments was the scene in which Yuuta initially discovers that Rikka had permanently left her apartment, as a somber atmosphere pervaded throughout this sequence; one that really emphasized their mutual sorrow and the possibility that this separation from one another could very well indicate that their newly-realized relationship would be painfully fleeting. I really liked the momentary recollection to his previously unheard advice for Rikka, since this moment was a defining point in her isolation that was, at the time, necessarily silenced. Another fantastic sequence was Yuuta cycling towards Rikka’s house, in which, upon encountering Kumin, he learns of his seemingly fated existence with Rikka, as Kumin elaborated on Yuuta’s heightened significance to Rikka for the last two years, as the vestiges of her earliest memories with Yuuta are displayed, illustrating that he once unknowingly motivated her into adorning the useful façade she wore in order to cope with her mourning, which, though rather convenient and somewhat predictable, greatly depicted that she had always loved him. The direction throughout this integral realization was superb, interspersing several significant flashbacks with Yuuta’s struggles to reach Rikka, culminating with a striking shot of Yuuta and his bike suspended in midair, isolated against the distant lights of the city he was frantically approaching.

Shinka’s wistful conversation with Yuuta illuminated the seemingly flawed and needlessly excessive approach to forcefully dealing with their delusional tendencies, as she perceptively alludes to the distinct possibility that everyone possesses a unique quality within, then mentioning the idea that it’s partially foolish to attempt to extinguish this aspect of their personalities altogether. Once again, Shinka is portrayed as the most knowledgeable of the group, by far, and it was nice to see this touched upon one last time, since it’s an effective element within her thoroughly evolved characterization. Though really enjoyable and quite amusing, Kumin's confident transition into a wielder of the "wicked eye" was rather contrived, since, along with Sanae's transformation, they somewhat felt like unnecessarily heightened reactions to Rikka's "disappearance".

The final scene in this episode strongly mirrored the opening sequence in the first, as Yuuta’s perspective is altered by Rikka’s descent from her balcony onto his. I felt it was a nice parallel to the nature of their first meeting, and, though not particularly subtle with it‘s intentions, it was a really effective closing shot. I'm hoping that the conclusion also intended to imply a realized balance within her chuunibyou persona, rather than a continued usage of it as an escape from reality, as said balance was somewhat perceptible in the livelier, far more natural tone of her words at the end.

Although rather predictable, the developments within this episode were quite satisfying, aside from several conveniences during the first half. Though I initially expected to be thoroughly unsatisfied by such a development in which Rikka reestablishes the chuunibyou aspect of her characterization, I, instead, felt that this partial reversion and slight evolution was handled quite delicately, to the point where it didn’t particularly disappoint, since it doesn’t appear that she’s inclined to fully embrace all of the detrimental elements that once resided in these fantastical delusions. However, though the previous episode foreshadowed this eventual outcome, I would have much preferred a conclusion that was a bit more ambitious in it’s moralistic suggestions, since a complete abandonment of her naïve adolescence, though partially explored here, wasn’t entirely attained, which would have indicated a more compelling and unexpected conclusion to Rikka and, in part, Yuuta’s development.

The most significant flaw within this episode is the absence of conclusive development for a majority of the secondary characters, since, aside from Shinka, their individual arcs were disappointingly incomplete, as, understandably, to an extent, Rikka and Yuuta's relationship was the central and all-encompassing focus. For this alone, the narrative execution should have been more impressively consistent with the subtleties it had ingrained into the story throughout the earlier episodes, such as Makoto's potential relationship with Kumin, Sanae's fluctuating shifts within her personality, and, though she played a particularly important role throughout this episode, Kumin was somewhat underutilized despite the intermittent foreshadowing of a greater purpose. Thankfully, despite these criticisms, though somewhat inconsequential throughout the earlier episodes, the secondary characters gradually became much more involved throughout the latter half of the show, and, in turn, Rikka and Yuuta‘s mutual development, rather than only possessing a tangential influence within the narrative, as shown by their assistance in helping Rikka escape towards the end of this episode.

Yuuta and Rikka’s relationship was fantastic, since they complemented each other really well, and, as such, the slowly-developing nature of their romance was completely natural and very satisfying. Although this episode lacked an exceedingly intimate interaction between them, such as a kiss or something similar, this restrained subtlety suits their characters and the story completely. Yuuta was one of my favorite characters, so it was occasionally disappointing that his development throughout the majority of episodes that followed the third was seemingly secondary in importance and, for the most part, solely connected with Rikka's. However, the final episode extensively remedied this by the realization of his ability to understand what is most important for both Rikka and himself, as well as the conscious removal of his partially flawed reluctance towards his chuunibyou adolescence. Rikka's emotional closure towards the end of this episode was terrific, as it signified an essential transition past her painful hindrances, such as the forlorn memory of her father and the inability for her to refrain from using this as a constructed layer within her artificial mask.

The romantic element within the show was it’s strongest quality, as this aspect of the narrative excellently differentiated itself from the disappointingly conventional complications that typically permeate the majority of romantic comedies, instead relying on a distinctly balanced approach to storytelling, since, aside from an occasional episode that prominently focused on an essential melancholy, the show smartly avoided, for the most part, a thorough reliance on detrimentally tedious developments or repetitive contrivances, which, for this particular genre, is a rare feat, since the majority of these sort of stories seem readily determined to heavily focus on needlessly stagnant dynamics, perpetually denoted by an exceedingly manufactured development or continuous introductions of ancillary, ultimately inconsequential characters.

The secondary characters were altogether great and considerably engaging, as their clearly defined personalities and relatively interesting characterizations allowed for highly enjoyable and often hilarious interactions, as well as some intriguing development, especially evident with Shinka. As such, Sanae and Shinka were the best secondary characters, so their numerous antics and mutual development throughout the show were highlights within each episode, as they complemented each other very well, consistently bringing out the best in one another, and although a very temporary change, I really liked Sanae’s small touch of using a hairclip while she adopted a seemingly mature personality. Makoto and Kumin were the most “unimportant” characters within the group, and, as such, their stalled relationship was expected, but it’s inability to be resolved at some point within the last several episodes was rather disappointing, since it would have effectively given both of them a layer of meaningful depth that could have provided a broadened focus within the narrative that wasn’t exactly explored.

One of the most impressive and satisfying aspects of the show was it’s tightly structured narrative. As such, the narrative, as a whole, was greatly cohesive and exceptionally well-paced, never having slipped into a tiresome monotony, as each episode methodically propelled the story and, in turn, the characters’ gradual development, forward. Although the narrative was, at times, developed in an exceedingly simplistic manner, the slight lack of noticeable complexities and needlessly divergent developments was rather beneficial to the story. Of course, there was still a certain level of compelling intricacies that were intermittently infused into the narrative, accentuated most evidently by Yuuta and Rikka’s beautiful, well-developed relationship. Though I preferred the comedic aspects of the story, the melancholic elements that increasingly filtered into the narrative throughout the latter half of the show rarely felt particularly intrusive, since, for the most part, these dramatic developments were naturally woven into the story, consistently drawing upon foreshadowed events and past emotions.

Taichi Ishidate’s direction was terrific throughout this episode and, though not quite as nuanced or emotionally evocative as his direction in Hyouka’s final episode, it definitely elevated numerous moments, such as Rikka's jump from her window. Musically, the show was solid, but unremarkable, possessing only a few selections that were marginally memorable. Visually, this episode was amazing, especially throughout the final sequence. The animation has consistently been one of the best elements of the show, as it was able to effectively capture subtle flourishes of emotion and small, nearly imperceptible movements that were essential in conveying the emotional complexities within several exceedingly significant moments throughout the show.

All in all, Chuunibyou was thoroughly impressive throughout it's entirety, excelling with it's highly enjoyable characters, the comedic elements that were filtered into the story, the masterful execution of it's narrative, and, above all, the exceptionally satisfying development and subsequent portrayal of Rikka and Yuuta's relationship. Although it wasn't nearly as great as Hyouka, it was, in it's own right, a considerably enjoyable and consistently interesting story that rarely faltered, hardly ever displaying even a modicum of mediocrity. Although occasionally flawed in several areas, KyoAni has constructed the best romantic comedy of the year.

A satisfying 8/10 for me.

No, they both look like K-On!, also one of Kyo Ani's production.

Come on now, Clannad didn't even have a kiss lmao

I don't mind at all that they didn't kiss. Not that a kiss is bad or anything, but it felt like such a pure, genuine relationship at that point that it didn't matter.

I was hopping for a kiss even knowing there was a tiny chance to let it happen, I'm not satisfied at all but I give it 10 because I can accept this ending after all. I don't know but I feel like I would like to watch a second season, I would risk it.

Where the hell was the kiss.
9/10 I took away one point for no kiss.

I will definitely miss Chu2. I wonder if Tamako Market will be as good as it.

An awesome end to an awesome series. I was expecting this ending and it's really well executed.

ahhh.. the complicated feeling when you want it to just stop here because of the beautiful ending or continue on the story just for the love of the anime.

I will miss listening to Sparkling Daydream and Inside Identity every week. :')

p/s the normal Dekomori is so cute! Cant really decide which version of her is better :3 but the chu-2 Kumin is... a little bit weird... :/

Dekomori with her hair down is simply WOW! Cuteness overload ~.~
Totally didn't expect Kumin to be the successor to the Wicked Eye... Had a good laugh though.

Ending was quite predictable with a few laughs here and there, that is, Isshiki being a molester. But, as everyone has pointed out already, There is no kiss!!!

Overall, this anime has been an enjoyable one... The ending was good I guess, nothing really fantastic though. Really interesting take on chuunibyou and I could somewhat relate to it. The narrations really made sense on the main thing - It all boils down to self-consciousness.

Gonna miss this anime quite a lot... At the end it said "See you soon" right? OVA and possibly a 2nd season? I have a feeling its just gonna be an OVA though...

You people really need to chill out about the fact that there was no kiss....

Who cares!

It would NOT have made this anime better or worse.

I was really surprised at how great they handled the ending. I wish this anime was a bit longer, but all in all, I love this anime so much now. I think it out-beats Hyouka, although many will disagree with my opinion.

In spite of a few flaws, this anime was genuinely hilarious, heartwarming, and surprisingly deep with near-perfect pacing; so much that I didn't notice any of those flaws at all.

Move aside, AnoHana and Usagi Drop - Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! is now my new 4th most favourite anime of all time! And that's no joke. Thank you for another, wonderful masterpiece, KyoAni.

I love Dekomori with her hair down...
Kumin being the second wielder of Wicked Eye...

And I didn't expect that Yuuta was the real reason why Rikka became a chuunibyou!
I really love how he did the "Banishment, this world!" and they found the Ethereal Horizon in the end!

(Dark Flame Master vs. Wicked Eye didn't happen, darn, I would have wanted Yuuta to have a battle scene)

8/10 for a very fun to watch and heartwarming series.

Up next, Tamako Market!

I completely agree with you, I'm affraid that a second season would ruin the magic from the first one but kyoani did such a great job with love that I doubt they will bring a bad second season. I loved the wicked eye kumin by the way, I found it hilarious and a very good move on this plot. I'm gonna miss chuunibyou next week, I'll need 2 weeks to recover from this... I would never be satisfied no matter the ending, it's like you want to see those characters lives untill their very end. Such a beautiful anime... :'(

I don't care about the kiss...
Why Dekomori entered in chuunibyou state again?
What happened with Isshiki and Kumin relationship? Absolutely nothing?
At the end Yuuta believes or not believes in the ethereal horizon and all those things?
How is Rikka going to interact with their classmates and other people? She is going to talk with them or she is going to ignore them again?


Me too, I wanted the two main characters to...I don't know...Discover that they can live with passion in reality too


It's incredibly unexpected but yeah, Nibutani Shinka it's by far the most interesting character of this anime. By far

Untill we meet again, It said on my vid... I wonder too if that means second season or ova or whatever.

Yuuta still does.

And did you watch the finale at all? You can't make Rikka move past her chuunibyou - that's WHO SHE IS! Her true self! Not some delusional façade she puts up. Rikka is living in reality in her own special way. That was the whole point of her development and Yuuta's confession in the first place.

EDIT:
You can't "move past" who you are. You just can't.

Beautiful ending and closure to a fantastic series. This is definitely is in the running for Anime of the Season. I enjoyed it from beginning to end. With its great comedy to its heart wrenching drama, this one is one for the ages.

Underneath the moe and humor is deep undertones of always staying true to yourself, and also growing up. And this series does such a great job of showing how hard it is to grow up. But it also does a great job establishing its key point: Always stay true to yourself.

The characters were what really made the series. They were diverse, fun to watch, and never boring. Kyoani did an absolutely terrific job with this. Coming into the season, people got the idea this was nothing but a blob of moe and nothing more. I love how wrong people were about it.

Honestly, leaving out the kiss doesn't bother me at all. Sort of follows the "staying a kid" type of feel, plus it leaves a little to the imagination. The ending also leaves us thinking, and that's always something important to have a work.

I give Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai! a 10/10. This was a masterpiece in every sense.

Thanks for the great times Rikka, Dekomori, Yuuta, Kumin, Nibutani, Isshiki, and everyone else!

For all those that is saying "no kiss" i say Pefect Ending. omgomgomg I'm having a heart atack now, such epic epsode, I just love it. Rikka is so moe and the Dark Flame Master finally show us his true power.
I can happily say now, come on world's end, Chuu-2 byou had finish.

a kiss would have great but still this is the best aime of this season !!! Loved it all the way ! LOVE IT !!! 10/10 :D

long live the chuunis in all of us

and s class benz? okayyyy.

I guess it's a kind of western tradition that any show with male and female main character must have a kiss. Even spiderman, transformers, almost every action movies have kisses. TV shows have kisses for every couples that it even almost looks like a joke.

KyoAni almost never have any kisses, and I think it's suitable to the Studio's spirit and Japanese culture. I don't mind.

Anyway, most likely the best of the season. 9/10, totally what I'm expecting from KyoAni.

Not that bad. Pretty good as a whole. Too bad the original source material finished it's run. I mean, I felt some hints and elements mixed in that Nibutani was a love interest for the MC. Oh well.

While good, the open ended nature does make it worthwhile it feeling like an unfinished story. Tangible possibilities are still possibilities.

"i have extenuating circumstances"
im sure you do my friend.

Amazing ending to an amazing series, truly the best possible ending, people need to chill about not having a kiss, do you really think that effects the quality of their relationship? I mean seriously....well in any case glad that this series blew away my expectations and unlike others who were all upset about KyoAni choosing this over LB! my expectations were still rather high for it, yet they were still blown away, i enjoyed this series that much :D

I don't understand, the episode ends with Rikka firing imaginary powers to a police car, she is still living in her imaginary world, not in the real one

At least Kiss to end the deal =/

for me the best anime of the season and with a better ending it would be a perfect score 9/10.